Looking at Harper's proposal for Quebec
The first time I ever cast a ballot was in the Charlottetown referendum in 1992, where I voted "no" to codifying special status for francophone Quebeckers in the Constitution of Canada through the distinct society clause. I felt that although Canada was built on two founding nations, it was time to move beyond that and see the country as ten equal provinces, each with their own attributes. Sure, Quebec was and still is obviously different, but minority rights are already guaranteed in the Charter. Why did we need to put special status for one group above all others in the Canadian constitution? In multiethnic, multilingual, multicultural Canada, especially now in 2005, 13 years after Charlottetown, the concept of special status for one group over all the others smacks of favouritism and inequality.
Harper's proposal to allow Quebec its own seat at the international table beside Canada would harken back to giving one province special status. This is not the way to build and strengthen Canada. Instead, it smacks of appeasement. Does he think that separatists are going to stop pursuing their own country because they are given special status internationally? No way. They will want more. The federal government has tried for 40 years to try and make separatists believe that Canada is worth being a part of and the PQ and BQ have never been stronger.
Meanwhile, we see the antics of people in Chicoutimi toward minorities like Ted Nolan. Make no mistake ... this is the Pequiste/Blocquiste way. Sure, in the cities, not as much, because there has been some success in reaching out towards non-pur laine Quebecers, but in the separatist heartland of Lac St. Jean and surrounding areas like Chicoutimi, I believe there is a deep streak of nativism and exclusion directed towards those who are seen as one of "les autres". Codifying the distinction between francophone Quebecers and non-francophone Quebecers through the distinct society clause would have simply emboldened the feeling of superiority of small-minded and tribal Quebec "bluenecks" towards those who are not like them. The numbers of modern, outward-looking, globally-minded francophone Quebecers who are truly proud of both their Quebecois AND Canadian identities are diminishing. That's becoming more and more obvious all the time.
And so, as Jeffrey Simpson asks below, do the vast majority of Quebeckers even care about being a part of the Canadian family anymore? If so, what's the point of coming up with grandiose schemes like the one Harper is proposing?
I have reproduced Simpson's complete column from today's Globe and Mail because it is worth reading in full.
What next?
Why build bridges to Quebec if Quebeckers could care less?
JEFFREY SIMPSON
The French philosopher Ernest Renan once argued that a nation is a people that has done great things together and wants to do great things together in the future.
By that definition, half of Quebeckers are now outside the Canadian nation, a point underscored by their support for the Bloc Quebecois. The BQ does not want to do great things within Canada. It wants a separate country.
If, election after election, large numbers of Quebeckers keep voting for a Quebec-only party that can never be part of the governing of Canada, then those voters are apparently not interested in Canada. Or, their attachment is only as deep as the next cheque coming from Ottawa. A country, as Renan would say, cannot be built or sustained on a cheque.
The BQ's support represents a nightmare for Canadian politics and unity. The BQ takes so many seats out of play for the national parties that Canadian politics is consigned minority governments. These, as Canadian history demonstrates, never last very long.
The BQ also radically departs from Canadian political history. Francophones have played important national roles ever since Sir John A. Macdonald insisted all successful parties had to be "Frenchified." They do today inside the Liberal government, but the Liberals are now a rusting hulk of a party in Quebec. The BQ, not the Liberals, dominates Quebec.
A Quebecker has been prime minister for 51 of 138 years since Confederation. Most governments with prime ministers from outside Quebec had Quebec lieutenants and/or a significant number of Quebec MPs. Winning Quebec was almost always the key to winning national power.
Canadian political parties historically were among the most important institutions linking Canada's regions, especially Quebec and the rest of the country. The parties were bridges, if you like. The BQ and its supporters are not interested in bridges within Canada. They don't care about the Canadian experience, except to tear it down. They are happy to be in political opposition, focusing only on Quebec issues, and not participating in the governance of the country.
Federal systems represent give-and-take. People in a federation's regions search for the best deal possible from the centre, but they also display a willingness to participate in national governance -- not just to protect their interests but because they are part of a larger country that wants to do things, if not always great things, together.
The BQ is all take and no give. This posture appeals to those who vote for the party. Better still for the BQ, it can take credit whenever Ottawa does something that satisfies Quebec, insisting that BQ pressure produced the goods, and blame the federal system for everything that goes wrong. In an all-take/no-give world, no one by definition can ever be satisfied.
There are gradations, of course, to the all-take/no-give world. The Liberal government in Quebec City preaches asymmetrical federalism, whereby Quebec opts out of national programs, demands a Quebec foreign policy in areas of provincial jurisdiction, and insists it remains committed to Canada. Then we have majority of Quebeckers in national elections opting out of country-building by voting BQ.
Quebec has dominated federal politics and national policy-making for four decades. Now, in provincial and federal politics, it is clear an increasing number of Quebeckers don't care about Canada, witness to which is starkly given by support for the BQ.
In 1997, the BQ got 38 per cent; in 2000, 40 per cent; in 2004, 49 per cent; it looks set to break through the 50-per-cent score this time. These trends logically if painfully beg the question: If Quebeckers are no longer much interested in national politics, why should national politics be much interested in Quebec? This question is not "Quebec-bashing," It merely reflects the reality in Quebec, and the logical extension of that argument elsewhere.
The Liberals, for most of Confederation, thought more about Quebec than the Conservatives or NDP. They were the bridge-builders into Quebec. But what happens when folks on the other side aren't much interested in bridges? Who needs bridge-builders any more?
The Conservatives, being historically much weaker in Quebec, didn't think as much about the province as the Liberals. If Quebec is going to vote heavily for a party that is not interested in Canada -- and so vote election after election -- you can ask why the rest of Canada should not support parties that are less interested in Quebec.
And then we would see where this new combination of mutual lack of interest takes the country.
13 Comments:
Underlying the separatist ideology is a deep streak of intolerance towards anyone who is non-Quebecois.
So you think separatist supporters in the heartland of Quebec are all hugs and kisses to non-Quebecois?
Ah, well, they are just like all of the other oppressed minorities the world over, so who can blame them for the odd racial epithet, I suppose. *sarcasm*
Don't ever ... EVER ... accuse me of supporting racism in any form.
EVER.
That is completely uncalled for and completely beyond the pale.
Yes ... you said that my past involvement with the same political party our potential future PM came from, was a tacit endorsement of racism on my part because of some unacceptable remarks by some individuals in the same party ... implication being that I have no credibility on the issue of intolerance among the party which scapegoats "money and the ethnic vote".
A complete smear.
Riiiiight ... 5000 people from the Saguenay gathered to watch a hockey game, and they could all be federalists or Conservatives. Suuuuurre.
If you think there is no basis in fact that there is a dark underbelly to the separatist movement, you are kidding yourself.
Implying racism because I used to be a Reform guy, oh, about 10 years ago, is like me calling you a fanatical Christian because of the Rev. Bill Blaikie. There is a huge difference between the PQ/BQ ideology and that of the national right, or left, for that matter.
It is not as though Preston Manning stood up and targetted Jews and non-whites like Parizeau did.
Then again, the drive-by smear is the socialist stock-in-trade - especially since the Dippers have never recovered from the obliteration of 1993 on the Prairies and in BC thanks in no small part to those rascally redneck racist Reformers - as is pretending that separatists are really just misunderstood in the hopes of winning seats there, instead of just telling it like it is.
I call it like I see it ...
I also agree it's a very valid question. The more we give Quebec the more they seem to resent the rest of the country. At some point the price of capitulation needs to be discussed.
Do you want Quebec separation in the next 4 years or later? A big majority of Quebecois want more autonomy for their province. Stephen Harper is 100% on the right direction for Quebecois. But Quebecois dont want to impose that to others provinces. If this is rejected once more, it will prove once more to federalist autonomists in Quebec that there is no chance to improve federalism as they want. And that will lead to a sooner refendum gagnant for the souvrainist.
Either way I will be happy.
Does anyone else think that an arena full of hockey fans hurling racially-based insults to Ted Nolan - which just happens to be located in the heartland of the separatist movement - is simply coincidence?
No doubt that it wouldn't be seen as just a coincidence if it happened in Red Deer, Fort McMurray or Medicine Hat.
One can also note from the CBC doc "Breaking Point" that when Parizeau said what he did in 1995, he got considerable applause from the assembled crowd in the hall where he was speaking. Not overwhelming, but the remark was rather well-received.
The hockey crowd was certainly not a coincidence. Parizeau's comments were very representative of the separation movement.
As you've correctly asked before Hammer - How would you like to be a non-franco in an independent Quebec? I know I wouldn't.
My beautiful and darling fiancée is a true-blue Quebecoise at heart. One year ago, I convinced her to move to Ontario, my home province, and we bought a home. I have promised her that if separatism recedes by the time we retire, we will return to Quebec.
I don't want to raise my future children in the current climate there. The neighbourhood we live in has people from all over the place and so they will be exposed to everything the world has to offer. I want to live somewhere were people who are different are considered part of the family, not as outsiders.
I have had some negative personal experiences when among some Quebecois socially because I am not francais.
It is not all Quebecois. Just some. Key distinction. However, I do have a certain, shall we say, perspective on the orientation of separatists towards everyone else.
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